John Walsh

Profile: Full name: John Walsh Area of interest: Current affairs, social and cultural issues Journals/Organisation: The Independent Email: j.walsh@independent.co.uk Personal website: Website: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/john-walsh Blog: Representation: Networks:

Biography: About: Education: Wimbledon College; Exeter College, Oxford; University College, Dublin Career: Evening Standard: features editor; The Sunday Times: literary editor; The Independent (magazine): editor Current position/role: Assistant editor, columnist and special feature writer (also interviewer, restaurant reviewer) also writes/written for: New Yorker, Harpers & Queen, Tatler, Q, Mojo, The Word Other roles/Main role: Other activities: Director of the Cheltenham Festival of Literature, 1997 and 1998 Disclosures: Viewpoints/Insight: HarperCollins: interview MadameArcati.blogspot: The John Walsh Book Party Broadcast media: Video: Presenter of Radios 4's Books & Company (for three years); regular appearances on BBC Radio 4 quiz show, The Write Stuff Controversy/Criticism: Awards/Honours: Scoops: Other:

Books & Debate: The Falling Angels (1999) OCLC 42405797 Are you talking to me?: a life through the movies (2003) OCLC 51623507 ~ watch meet the author (VIDEO) Sunday at the Cross Bones (2007) OCLC 71346640 Latest work: Speaking/Appearances: Debate:

The Independent: Column name: *'Tales of the City' column ended April 2010 Remit/Info: Current affairs Section: Role: Columnist Pen-name: Email: j.walsh@independent.co.uk Website: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/john-walsh Commissioning editor: Day published: Thursday Regularity: Weekly Column format: Average length:

Articles: 2012 The black-tie dinner at an Oxford college that told me dress codes do matter - At Oxford University, students at Brasenose College have been told off for coming to breakfast in jim-jams and dressing-gowns - 17th May Thank you, John Peel. I'm no longer ashamed - I saw with mixed feelings that John Peel's record collection is up for inspection by his adoring fans - 3rd May I never used to worry about mobiles damaging your health... - When I watch my daughter with her iPhone clamped to her ear, I think: is it time we got serious about mobiles? - 26th April It's the season of lone idiots. Just try stopping them - The Royal flotilla will surely offer an unmissable opportunity- 12th April Killers aren't the result of what's on TV - Words like 'civilisation' express our attempts to rein in our savage instincts - 5th April Me, Ziggy and the passion of pure fandom - Notebook: I was a man possessed. I looked a fright and didn't care - 30th March The perils of reviewing restaurants - think of us, dear reader - I will never forget the intestinal mayhem wrought by a single naga chilli I ate in a Sussex field - 24th March Simply everyone is plumbing the depths this year - The Mariana Trench is rapidly becoming this year's must-visit destination. Forget Mauritius, Ibiza and the Florida Keys - 22nd March Understanding literature is better than just calling it names - Notebook: Oh, no, look who's "giving offence" now – it's that well-known reckless tearaway Dante Alighieri of Florence - 15th March You've got to not believe in something - I was intrigued to hear about The Asexual Society. It's not exactly a society, but a group of people who come under the banner of the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (Aven) by their shared non-experience: they don't experience sexual attraction - 1st March Will Germany ever be allowed to feel its past is not its present? - I'm looking forward to seeing this new movie called Iron Sky. It's based on a simple premise that, in 1945, a Nazi army flew to the dark side of the Moon to set up a swastika-shaped compound and, in 2018, they're poised to return to Earth - 23rd February I'd visit a museum about kissing at the movies - The Mob Museum has just opened – on Valentine's Day, which was the occasion for a celebrated massacre 83 years ago last Tuesday - 16th February If only the magical Angela Carter were around to record life in 2012 - Hearing A Postcard from Angela Carter read out on Radio 4 this week and finding the complete Carter oeuvre back in bookshops, it struck me how much, although she died 20 years ago, she'd have enjoyed life in 2012 - 10th February The poor guy - he'll have to change his stationery - Barely an hour after the announcement, Sir Fred Goodwin's Wikipedia entry was headed "Fred Goodwin" - 1st February Talking posh is on the rise. I blame Downton - Of all the bits of the human body we're keen to improve these days, the voice is surely the most surprising - 26th January Self-improvement is on the rise. At last, a true return to Victorian value - 19th January A hatchet job is not the real thing unless it's done with wit and learning - Sing a song of critics/ pockets full of lye/ four and twenty critics/ hope that you will die,/ hope that you will peter out, / hope that you will fail..." wrote a fuming Ernest Hemingway to a Mr Lee Wilson Dodd who'd given his story collection Men Without Women a bad review - 12th January Like the music they played, life after radio for the ex-DJs is a tale of hits and misses... - For every DJ who found a second career in business, like Bruno Brookes (who's now a muzak supplier to companies like Spar and Ikea) and his old colleague Peter Powell (who co-owns a management company for showbiz performers,) there are two casualties - 6th January The 24 OMs who show that even in Britain there's a place for meritocracy - There's something about the word "honour" that provokes dishonourably furious responses - 5th January

Articles: 2011 Save record shops – buy CDs - It's been a shocking experience to see our only major music chain going dark - 23rd December Don't dare come between me and my books - 15th December Anyone read about any good sex lately? - 8th December About this, I think I can trust Paul McMullan - 1st December If I know the right answer, please don't overrule me - 24th November You delude yourself if you believe in chivalry - Has chivalry died out, or is it alive and kicking online? - 3rd November If I had an e-reader, no one would know my guilty Jackie Collins secret - A poll of British readers has discovered something shocking - 27th October Words to go with Olympic deeds - Poetry and the 2012 Olympics draw closer together - 6th October A new TV series celebrates the swinging Sixties era of Pan Am stewardesses - Feature: But was it really all white gloves and cocktails? John Walsh discovers the truth about the original trolley dollies - 29th September Leave a comment – but get a life - Of all the figures upon whom the online community might train their arsenal of vilification, female contestants on University Challenge should rank pretty low, don't you think? - 8th September 'No, we shouldn’t just Google it': John Walsh laments the death of the reference book - Feature: Sales of reference books are sinking fast as we turn online for the answers to life's big – and small – questions. But our civilisation would be infinitely poorer if Roget's, Brewer's and Fowler's go out of print - 1st September Nomads who've earned a home - It's ironic that what has annoyed Basildon Council about the 80-odd Irish Traveller families, who today face eviction from the Dale Farm site in Essex, is that they don't actually travel anywhere - 1st September The odd thing was, you never really wanted the third book - It was widely believed by authors (though seldom admitted by publishers) that the three-for-two choice of books on Waterstone's tables was not a marketing ploy by the booksellers - 1st September App-ril is the cruellest month? - A look at the digital literary hierarchy - 25th August So far away – and so baffled - Trust me to miss the party. I was away on holiday last week when the London riots were in full swing - 18th August Some nice little Olympic earners - Joe Biden, the American Vice-President, is a bit of a chancer isn't he? - 4th August Hey - that's Eric Idle at the next table - I'm just back from Los Angeles, where they make up their own rules about reality - 28th July Rupert's bid for my peach sorbet - For some reason, people keep asking me about Rupert Murdoch. "You're a journalist," they say - 14th July Real men just don't care how they look - What are we chaps to make of the fact that Hugh Laurie has been signed up as the face, no the smell, no, hang on, the ambassador of L'Oreal cosmetics? - 7th July The revolution that is women at the wheel - Will the issue of women drivers become a force for change in Saudi Arabia? - 1st July Is university going to be worth it? - New measures will "allow" students to rate their lecturers as part of a students' charter or review - 30th June What I learnt at the Playboy Club - The Slutwalk business has had repercussions. Men and women have been squaring up to each other all over the place - 16th June Time we made our tantrums official - Now now. Temper temper. Our thoughts are with Matt Prior, the bearded and slightly alarming England wicketkeeper, who, completely by accident, smashed a window at Lord's Cricket Ground - 9th June What's Marmite done to deserve this? - Of all the bloody cheek. The nation woke yesterday to the news that Denmark's Veterinary and Food Administration has gone and banned Marmite from its shelves - 26th May So that's how my taxes are spent ... - You know that worried feeling you get, while looking through your monthly bank statement, that there are some items which you can't identify? - 19th May Mississippi rising, or the end of time? - I spent last week with a river lapping at my feet. I was in America's sublime Deep South, researching a story about music - 12th May Why the Queen will be among friends - The organisers of the Queen's visit to Ireland next month won't be getting any medals for tact - 21st April Bite-size books: Abridged too far? - So much to learn, so little time... In every publisher's catalogue, you'll find the slenderest volumes on the biggest subjects. But huge concepts can't simply be boiled down into bite-size books - 20th April How to keep up with the Letwins - In this anti-elitist age, snobbery seems ridiculously outmoded. But, argues John Walsh, there's an awful lot of it about ... - 5th April We should cherish poetry, not kill it - You won't, I suspect, get many hoodied and snarling protesters attacking policemen with Molotov cocktails at the news that the Poetry Book Society has lost its Arts Council of England grant. But that doesn't stop it being a disgraceful decision by the ACE's Literature Department - 31st March How can you 'dumb down' a cookery competition? - The new series of MasterChef, which kicked off this week with a shiny new set, coolly nightclubby lighting, a platoon of nervous contestants and a lot of weeping, has come under attack - 19th February Colleagues – not rules – will tell us when we've gone too far - We are all - women included - capable of sexist remarks - 27th January

Articles: 2010 A day to remember - Three decades ago, a bride and her prince charmed the nation. Since then, scandal, sell-outs and cynicism have changed our attitudes to Royal weddings. So, asks John Walsh, will we raise the bunting this time? - 17th November A very earthly representative - For 60 years, the Dalai Lama has been a spiritual leader and an emblem of dispossession. He's also appeared in adverts, charmed celebrities and gained a million followers on Twitter. John Walsh charts the virtues and vices of a thoroughly modern monk - 15th November (feature) Spooked by the new ghostbusters - 28th October Simon Cowell, the Booker awaits you - 15th October Skate with cocoa - a taste of paradise? - As he judges a post-Blumenthal Masterchef, John Walsh asks if some gastronomic combinations are scientifically wrong - 13th October (feature) God is so many things to so many people - For a chap who probably doesn't exist, a man-invented metaphysical construct, God has been everywhere this week - 10th September Tales of the unexpected: The dark side of bedtime stories - A new biography of Roald Dahl throws light on the private life of one of our best-loved writers. But why are so many children's authors such damaged human beings? - 6th September (feature) Big Brother: the series that made surveillance acceptable - It was the TV show billed as a social experiment. But as Big Brother draws to a close, John Walsh argues that it has made Britain more like Orwell's dystopia than we could have imagined - 18th August (feature) Stop agreeing and start fighting - How do Tories and Lib Dems get through the day without winding each other up? - 29th May Reminding the faithful of the resurrection of Christ isn't for wimps - It's been a tough Easter weekend for Catholics - 6th April I wonder what a quilting bee inside a maximum security wing is like - 30th March College reunions give us a chance to monitor each other's, ahem, progress - 23rd March Discussions are raging over whether bullfighting and siestas are art forms - 16th March In 1937, the enemy invasion was youths on bikes in leather shorts - 9th March Depressed estate agents need something to perk up their drooping spirits - 2nd March How can anyone be allergic to lettuce? It's 90 per cent water isn't it? - 23rd February I thought the roads in Kazakhstan were bad. But potholes in London... - 9th February The little sadists will insist on cigarettes being sold singly in paper bags - 2nd February Taboo word? It depends on whether you mean the human bits, or rubbish - How instructive to find out what's unacceptable to the BBC - 26th January Met Office predicted a warm winter. Cheers guys - 19th January Frigid Farrah or Foxxxy are not a girlfriend experience I recognise - 12th January I gave him £20. He and his gormless son instantly said: "Please, more!" - 5th January

Articles: 2009 Teaching the police hypnosis is the stupidest idea in crime-busting - 22nd December Tales of the City - My daughter's Christmas list appears to solicit a profusion of luxury goods - 15th December Born and bred a Brit... - ...but apparently I know nothing about Britishness - 8th December O Come All Ye Faithful isn't a historical record of who was at the manger - 1st December The vampire tale used to be a mix of bats, blood, cleavage and snobbery - 24th November If a politician lays a wreath at the Cenotaph, it's a mark of respect - 10th November Fleetwood Mac survived 42 years of madness, sex, drugs, failure and success - 3rd November I was defending the most testosterone-fuelled bloke in 20th-century literature - 20th October Suddenly it happened. An actual British chap was proposing in public - 13th October Bullingdon Club high jinks keep coming back to haunt the Tories - It’s traditional for posh, violent dimwits to refuse to take any blame - 6th October I am currently bestriding the televisual universe like an aloof Colossus - 29th September Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Kit Kat Caramel (£1.39 for 3) - Product placement? Yes please - 15th September First there were book clubs. Now it's glee clubs. Haven't you joined one? - 8th September I object to being forced by politicians to change the way I use light - 25th August Forget the pigs' trotters and focus on the basics - It's sad when a restaurant that opened to general delight in the spring is forced to hang up its oven gloves for good in the autumn - 24th August Tales of the City - God wants you wealthy... and he'd also like your cinema, please, oh and a fast car - 18th August Quangos are absurd little organisations with large amounts of cash to splash - After the bankers, the MPs and the BBC, it's the turn of quangos. Absurd little organisations with pompous names and large amounts of money to spend on party balloons and champagne flutes, they're being blamed for blowing too much cash on celebrity guests - 11th August Only a t*** would not know the meaning of the word - politicians and swearing seldom go together - 30th July Don't take a policewoman prisoner then say you've been called a rude name - 28th July Poor Frank set the vogue for misery memoir - The book told the saddest story in the voice of a kid of 10 - 21st July Saint Therese is visiting Wormwood Scrubs prison on her tour of England - The bones of St Therese of Liseiux will be put on display in the Victorian chapel in Wormwood Scrubs prison as part of a tour of several English cathedrals - 7th July How much for Janis's letters? Holy cow. Is rock 'n' roll the new literature? - 30th June Sarkozy airily quotes Celine and carries works by Zola to power lunches - 23rd June Passion, drama, ecstasy – who'd have thought cricket can be such fun? - 16th June Futurists, Vorticists, Imagists: where are the manifesto writers today? - 9th June When everyone else is in Bermuda shirts and Rockport deck shoes, I prefer a feast of gore and grossness - 2nd June Perhaps it’s time a major newspaper investigated cleaners’ expenses - 12th May When did relationships in movies become less important than lifestyle? - 5th May She told him to get lost, he asked her to imagine them making love... - 28th April JG Ballard was our own private, Home Counties, prophet of doom - 21st April If bouncers stand in for teachers, what on earth will the children learn? - The life of a supply teacher in the Armageddon of the classroom was never a bed of roses. Called in as a pale substitute for a respected teacher who'd gone off to have a baby, had fallen ill or been sent on some "refresher course," stand-in teachers were like koalas introduced to a bear-baiting pit - 14th April Back then, long pepper grinders represented the epitome of la dolce vita - 7th April If your phone sounds weird, don't worry, it's just the apocalypse again - 31st March So Darwin was a boho boozer on the quiet – an idle proto-Wildean dandy lying on his Otto - 24th March I know what Kim Jong-Il objected to: anchovy and capers on the same pizza - 17th March Blackmail – it's like making love to a bee-yoodiful woman ... - 10th March What's Obama doing in denim and trainers? Back to the skinny suits, please - Tony Blair, even in the boiling heat of Gaza, wears a tightly buttoned club tie to emphasise the unearthly gravity of his role as Middle East envoy - 3rd March If you walked through the back quad you'd soon be as stoned as a poodle - What was William Hague up to, when he told a Sunday newspaper that MPs should confess about their youthful drug experiences? The shadow Foreign Secretary showed no inclination to spill les haricots about his own youthful drugs regimen, but he seemed oddly keen that others should - 17th February February isn't the ideal time to visit Sligo's drizzly fields, but I had high hopes - 10th February The garden looks as if it has been smothered by white supremacists - So, this is what it's like in the Siberian steppes, is it? I must say, I'm pleasantly surprised - 3rd February Barter doesn't work. It's too naff, too flyblown, too close to the poverty line - 27th January Barbie was based on a cartoon prostitute who'd do anything for money - 13th January So Wilde's not worthy of Worthing? Come on, you can't rewrite history - The burghers of Worthing have come out against poor Oscar. Some vocal locals think that their haven of gentility should abandon its links with the great Irish playwright and stop celebrating the time he came to stay - 6th January

Articles: 2008 Paying to watch Shane MacGowan lose it - It was the whirling lager bottle that did it - 23rd December 2008 Sir Paul feels he can hector the Dalai Lama - He exists in a heady stratosphere of Olympian fawning - 16th December 2008 A pre-Christmas party in Dulwich – how judgemental could it be? - 9th December 2008 When the literati come to party, it's time to clean up your bookshelves - 2nd December 2008 He's an odd bloke, this Mr Flowers – an effete man-boy Mormon dandy' - 25th November 2008 Cabinet enforcers have to throw their weight around – but not like this - the newly appointed Minister's exhaustive instructions to his civil servants (as laid out in an 11-page document called "Working with Liam Byrne") have come to light - 18th November 2008 There must be an opening for czar of middle-aged moaning - 11th November 2008 Why shouldn't newpapers print odes to Obama or about the banking crisis? - 28th October 2008 'Who decided to phase out celluloid projection, like Kodak camera film?' - 21st October 2008 'You can't mark down a school because there's a lard-arse in Year 13' - 14th October 2008 Boris Johnson, a cuddly sheepdog? Not any more – just ask Jacqui Smith' - 7th October 2008 'The stately homes of England need cash. Stand by for a class cataclysm' - 30th September 2008 What Lennon's sexual fantasies have to do with Gandhi and Keats... - 23rd September 2008 'When sex rears its head, says Barbara Cartland, a woman should be a nymph fleeing from a satyr' - 16th September 2008 Spleen, bile, attitude and foul language were always the stock in trade at the Colony Room Club' - 9th September 2008 Can you really call a town talented just because a historical figure once dropped in to buy a choc ice? - 2nd September 2008 Cut with Gordon's sharp tongue, a protégé escapes hell's kitchen - 28th August 2008 How unusual to find such an old-fashioned sexist lurking inside the bosom of the Catholic celibate - 26th August 2008 'The witch-doctor lady squatted on her seat, melting lead over a fire. It was time for my Turkish exorcism...’ - 19th August 2008 Dan Dare, our own comic-book hero, believed in non-violent solutions. No blockbuster films about him, then - 22nd July 2008 What was the bone of contention that caused this apparent schism in the Ciccone family? A light fitting? - 15th July 2008 'So what if Amanda Foreman was snapped au naturel? You'd see more flesh at a duchess's dinner party - 8th July 2008 A trip to Ibiza? I rushed home to pack sunblock, Imodium and my most violently coloured Bermuda shorts - 1st July 2008 Will there be gangs offering Rafael Nadal a roll of greasy fivers to make a balls of his backhand? - 24th June 2008 I marvelled at how Flo, a slender reed of a girl, could sing like one of the Furies, like an avenging angel - 10th June 2008 What better way for Natascha to catch up with modern Austria than by interviewing its stars on a talk-show? - 3rd June 2008 From his wheelchair, Gore Vidal glowered indignantly, like a man who had been exhumed against his will - 27th May 2008 If we saw next door's Jerry being savaged by rabid lurchers, we'd just raise our eyes to heaven - 20th May 2008 Contestants will have access to the south nave, from which they can hurl the javelin over the central altar - 13th May 2008 Being economical with words, my daughter chose to build a Roman gladiator, rather than write about one - 6th May 2008 Wretched, tumbledown and full of ineffable melancholy – why derelict homes bring shame on London - 29th April 2008 The Government already knows so much about you. And the new survey should take care of the rest - 22nd April 2008 In 1943, Sir Oswald Mosley was released from prison to find Vidal Sassoon standing against him... - 15th April 2008 What would Jane Austen have made of the micro-management of Wayne and Coleen's big day? - 8th April 2008 This furtive, self-important person used to be called a traffic warden, but from today he has extra powers - 1st April 2008 There's a dark, twisted braid of resentment and superiority that runs through Naipaul's make-up - 25th March 2008 Will the Commons have to receive Sarkozy's words in silence, or can our MPs heckle him in French? - 18th March 2008 Environmental pollution is one of the new deadly sins, according to the Vatican. How vacuously trendy - 11th March 2008 The rock'n'roll greats might have started out in grotty locales, but my son's band was in mortal danger - 26th February 2008 Armed robbery was obviously an offence. But so, too, was Little Bastard with the Peashooter outside Waitrose - 19th February 2008 My book will be translated, then I'll wait for the Hong Kong dollars to roll in. How difficult can that be? - 12th February 2008 Slowly but surely, I'm turning into a Grumpy Old Git. I've suddenly gone all Victor Meldrew about shop assistants - 5th February 2008 His dark materials - Fed up with ill-fitting, off-the-peg disasters, John Walsh and his teenage son Max decided to see if it's possible to buy a perfect bespoke suit – on a budget - Monday, 4th February 2008 Should we be all snotty about the news that McDonald’s will have the power to award its own A-levels? - 29th January 2008 The Home Secretary is revealed as a kebab-scoffing hard nut who might enjoy several pints of an evening - 22nd January 2008 Keats and Byron would have been intrigued by what their successors have evolved into... - 15th January 2008 Unwritten and unread books areall-too-eloquent testimonies to our lack of energy or imagination - 8th January 2008 The bin men refused to take away anything that looked like paper. It was time to get environmentally serious - 1st January 2008

The Independent: 'BTW' Column name: Remit/Info: Reflection on topical events with an emphasis on culture Section: Role: Columnist Pen-name: Email: j.walsh@independent.co.uk Personal website: Website: Independent.co / John Walsh Commissioning editor: Day published: Saturday Regularity: Weekly Column format: Average length:

Articles: Reflections on Salinger - Here was an author who wrote the way people spoke - 29th January 2010 We all got a kick out of the Kung Fu master - David Carradine's finest hours were probably those spent inhabiting the character of Kwai Chang Caine in the early-1970s TV series, Kung Fu - 5th June 2009 When the Playboy mansion crumbles - From the start, 'Mad Men' has been about the erosion of male identity - 10th February 2009 You chose the winner. Now lay off him - If Sebastian Barry's book has faults, it ill behoves the Costa judges to say soYou chose the winner - 29th January 2009 That's not very rock'n'roll, Robert... - A Led Zeppelin tour minus Robert Plant calls important issues into question - 30th October 2008 Quick, call a Transparent Wall Cleansing Executive! - Remember when a 'flueologist' was simply a chimney sweep? It's time to cut the job-title jibberish, says John Walsh, executive originator (words) - 8th October 2008 Last orders for the pub? - 6th September 2008 A double honour for the storm-tossed Amy Winehouse this week... - 26th July 2008 Mrs Irina Ivanova, mother of Ekaterina... isn't happy about how her daughter has been portrayed in the British media - 19th July 2008 Uh-oh. We really must be in trouble. "Sub-prime" and "credit crunch" have just entered the Oxford English Dictionary - 5th July 2008 So he dashed it off. But that doesn't mean it's not art (about Martin Creed) - Wednesday 2nd July 2008 This week's award for faultless logic goes to Ms Petra Faile... (who) believes the world will end in 2012 - 28th June 2008 Local politics doesn't inspire terribly strong emotions, does it? - 21st June 2008 Could we stop saying "inappropriate" when we mean "wrong"? - 7th June 2008 Six inches of rain fell on writers and readers, just and unjust, at the 21st Hay Festival last week - 31st May 2008 A Dirty Harry moment this week for CSI Bryan Lawton of the Greater Manchester Police... - 24th May 2008 Spare us any more politicians' rhapsodies about pop music... - 17th May 2008 We may resent The Rough Guide to England's description of us... - 10th May 2008 Spare a tear for the plight of America's motorists. Something terrible has happened... - 26th April 2008 Doh! Look what Homer Simpson has gone and done... offend the entire population of Argentina - 19th April 2008 The scary Mark E Smith, veteran lead singer with The Fall, has been sounding off - 12th April 2008 The visit of the French President and his délicieuse wife has been a five-day orgy of mutual adulation - 29th March 2008 Government pronouncements on Health and Safety tend to be greeted with ridicule... - 22nd March 2008 ...the spectacle of a slumbering government minister is a common one worldwide - 15th March 2008 Great Moments in Theology, No 1... - 8th March 2008 Environmental insight of the week comes from Shlomo Benizri, an Israeli MP, who blames homosexuality for bad weather - 23rd February 2008 Former schoolboy tormentors of inept teachers will remember the annoyance that could be inflicted... - 26th January 2008 Three books on Cécilia Sarkozy in the same week! - 12th January 2008 We've all left umbrellas in hotel rooms, but this is ridiculous... - 5th January 2008

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